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so
i was there , there were four of us , four friends in  a sea of people .
by about 1;oo it was stated  ABC news guessed 1.5 million later that was prved to be false .
DC park service #s are not so far under that though ....

15000 showed up to NObama's counter rally .

guess what
we are not going away
we do not endorse the direction the corrupt quasi socialist government is dragging our great country in .
we are going to do what we can to prevent it .

Congressman Joe Wilson IS right
President NObama has completely and deliberately mis represented the facts regarding illegals and the proposed health care nightmare hr3200.

NObama has stated and continues to state that illegals will not be covered , period .yet what happens when an illegal shows up at the emergency room ?
will they be treated ?
yes or no ?
you know the answer is yes .
who pays for that ? President NObama ? or you and me ?
take a wild guess .

so then
the demoncrat leadership seeks to punish Joe Wilson for speaking the truth ?
what then are the consequences to the President for willful misrepresentation of  the facts as he knows them .

or in english
do we allow the president to lie to us AGAIN without consequence ?
the answer is NOT no
it is HELL NO.   

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/912dc/?page=4

can not link ? or do not need to ?
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http://912dc.org/2009/09/were-you-at-the-march-on-washington/






-- Edited by mike of the mountain on Sunday 13th of September 2009 11:30:27 PM

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http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2009/09/12/HP/A/23055/FreedomWorks+Rally+in+DC.aspx


the link function does not function here ...
but if you copy and paste what is above , to google , you get to the C-Span recording of the event , 2hours and 50 minutes of it anyway
we were to the left of the stage


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Best official estimates put the crowd at around 60,000, not the 1.7 million that Glen Beck claimed.

I was not able to make it, but I saw a lot of pictures and video of the event, and it looked more like a "We Hate Obama" rally, rather than a "We Disapprove" rally. Most signs and chants we geared towards insulting and threatening the President, rather than simply voicing disagreement.

And no, President Obama did not lie. The proposal will NOT cover illegal aliens. Read it sometime.

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Mindcrime wrote:

Best official estimates put the crowd at around 60,000, not the 1.7 million that Glen Beck claimed.

I was not able to make it, but I saw a lot of pictures and video of the event, and it looked more like a "We Hate Obama" rally, rather than a "We Disapprove" rally. Most signs and chants we geared towards insulting and threatening the President, rather than simply voicing disagreement.

And no, President Obama did not lie. The proposal will NOT cover illegal aliens. Read it sometime.



i read it ...
and

Congressman Joe Wilson IS right
President NObama has completely and deliberately mis represented the facts regarding illegals and the proposed health care nightmare hr3200.

NObama has stated and continues to state that illegals will not be covered , period .yet what happens when an illegal shows up at the emergency room ?
will they be treated ?
yes or no ?
you know the answer is yes .
who pays for that ? President NObama ? or you and me ?
take a wild guess .

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so you say the illegals will not be covered ... take some time and think and do some research ...

then tell me

what happens when they show up at the emergency room needing services , no ID no money , just a need , ... and there is no way they are going to pay ,  do they get turned away ? yes or no ?



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I read it and Obama did not lie.

I hate to break it to you Mike, but they go to the emergency room now and don't pay. It's against the law to refuse medical treatment to anyone who lacks the ability to pay. This is not something knew, it's a perfect example of how the facts of this issue have been so distorted in an attempt to cause outrage and descension.

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Mike, as Member25 so succinctly pointed out, Emergency rooms are required to treat all people, regardless of age, race, or ability to pay. That has nothing to do with "covering" people for their health care. That's a silly strawman argument.

As for Obama's "lie," here's the actual verbage from the actual bill you refuse to actually read:

SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

Now, there is a provision that some wing-nuts hold up as proof that the bill is saying both things. It's the section entitled:

SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE.

What it says is:


" [A]ll health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services."

Illegal immigrants are not eligible for any of the major government-run health programs, including Medicare, Medicaid, or CHIP. Period. Legal immigrants have to be in the U.S. lawfully for five years to sign up for these programs and have to meet the same eligibility standards as anyone else.

So you see, Mike, you're wrong. Joe Wilson was wrong. He's the liar, not Obama.


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