Sarah Palin? Blech!!!

BrattyJenn · Veteran Member

Sarah Palin? Blech!!!

Andrew · Veteran Member

"Sex Education - Palin is a "firm supporter of abstinence-only education in schools" according to CNN in 2006. When running for governor in 2006, Palin wrote, "Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support," in response to a questionnaire by the Eagle Forum Alaska."

-from Wikipedia

I thought that this was interesting. Another Evangical Christian who would force her beliefs on other people's children but couldn't seem to keep her daughter from abstaining.

I am start to wonder about Scott after listening to him today. He seems to be holding the conservative line. Maybe he doesn't think for himself anymore.

He follows the herd mentality of the conservative right and then ducks out of the responsibility for giving any legitimite reason for his support by claiming that he will vote for some nameless 3rd party candidate.

I guess having a Bachelor of Science degree in communication-journalism and winning the Miss Wasilla beauty contest is a good enough for Republicans. I mean after George Bush and his ineptitude over the past 8 years, the Republicans have lowered the bar for civil leadership.

Idiots.

-- Edited by Andrew at 14:32, 2008-09-02

Andrew · Veteran Member

Anybody can do there own research without bias. Thankyou Wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Andrew · Veteran Member

Very CREEPY.

BrattyJenn · Veteran Member

Very creepy indeed....

And no one seems to be talking about the fact that she is still very much involved in the whole Ted Stevens fiasco....they were talking about impeaching her as governor of Alaska because of her involvement. They keep talking about how she is a "Washington Outsider." But she apparently already has the whole Capitol Hill mentality down pat....

As a woman, I am extremely insulted that McCain would even attempt to court Hillary supporters by putting a woman on the ticket...why else would he pick her?

She's a lifetime NRA member. So it is nice to know if their ticket wins the White House, you'll be able to take your AK-47 to your Evangelical Mega-Church with you, but will have no access to a sterile abortion!

Hey, I'll be the first one to say there ARE some women who are better off "barefoot and pregnant" Sarah Palin is one of them.

mike of the mountain · Veteran Member

she Sarah P. has little to no control over the choices made by her 17 year old daughter . you were all 17 once , how much did you listen to your parents at that time ?

let us also be aware that although the daughter made a mistake , she [the daughter] DID NOT choose to murder her child , she has accepted the responsibility of raising a child instead of taking the path Obama suggested for his child should the same situation develope .
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creepy ... oh yes and the media gave Obama a pass on that one , which is creepier ?
    a presidential candidate sanctioning murder of the innocent unborn wins hands down .
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you want birth control ? drink orange juice !
        ??? what ??? before or after ?
               instead of .
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Sarah P. has more on her resume than Obama has on his resume ... and she is the #2 .    nuff said .

BUFWINGS · Veteran Member

Every time all my co-workers talk about what a great choice Sarah Palin is I want to scream. Loudly. And then kick them. Yes I live in the south now and unfortunately am surrounded by bible beating conservatives that think all children are a blessing, that Bush is some kind of hero and that Obama and the Clintons are spawn of satan.

Palin is the epitome of a double standard and painting a pretty picture of teen pregnancy makes me ill.

Aren't family values a top republican platform?

My co-workers ridicule Bill Clinton and talk about what a horrible person he was because he got a BJ in the oval office. But having your 17 year old kid get knocked up - nothing wrong with that.

When it was announced Jamie Lynn Spears was pregnant, I don't recall anyone saying what a great thing it was that she was keeping the baby. Nor do I recall her mother being praised for raising such a great daughter.

Palin should stay in Alaska and be a hockey mom. She does not belong anywhere near the White House.

Oh and getting married at 17 just because you got knocked up is a horrible idea. Let's ruin three peoples lives.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

Andrew · Veteran Member

I actually am optimistic about the marriage situation. I don't know the future and am not so sure that three lives will be ruined. I would think that the support of the family would be a good thing, and improve the chances of a successful/long marriage.

I think they have a better chance then most couples of that age. Goodluck.

-- Edited by Andrew at 18:23, 2008-09-04

Daddydog · Veteran Member

Wow. Sarah Palin. What a stretch. You want this redneck one breath away from the presidency? No wonder Ahhnold Swartzenagger and Clint Eastwood could get elected to public office...

Mindcrime · Senior Member

mike of the mountain wrote:
she Sarah P. has little to no control over the choices made by her 17 year old daughter . you were all 17 once , how much did you listen to your parents at that time ? I thought being pregnant at 17 was some kind of happy blessing? Why would her parents tell her not to get pregnant?

let us also be aware that although the daughter made a mistake , she [the daughter] DID NOT choose to murder her child , she has accepted the responsibility of raising a child instead of taking the path Obama suggested for his child should the same situation develope .
Let us also be aware that Palin's daughter had a choice. Unfortunately, she doesn;t want anyone else's daughter to have that choice. She wants the government to make it for you.

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creepy ... oh yes and the media gave Obama a pass on that one , which is creepier ? A pass? Are you kidding? How many dozens of passes has McCain gotten?
    a presidential candidate sanctioning murder of the innocent unborn wins hands down . That's just a flat out lie. Obama does not sanction live abortions.
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you want birth control ? drink orange juice !
        ??? what ??? before or after ?
               instead of .
...........................................................

Sarah P. has more on her resume than Obama has on his resume ... and she is the #2 .    nuff said . More corruption. More double standards. More wasteful spending. And more lies. Yes, you're right, Mike! She has more negative experience!!!

mike of the mountain · Veteran Member

Mindcrime wrote:

mike of the mountain wrote:

let us also be aware that although the daughter made a mistake , she [the daughter] DID NOT choose to murder her child , she has accepted the responsibility of raising a child instead of taking the path Obama suggested for his child should the same situation develope .
Let us also be aware that Palin's daughter had a choice. Unfortunately, she doesn;t want anyone else's daughter to have that choice. She wants the government to make it for you.
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the government did not get her pregnant , she made the choice , the government had no say at all ,
the same choice will always be availible to any and all .
murder of innocents is not an option.
it never should have been.
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c
    a presidential candidate sanctioning murder of the innocent unborn wins hands down . That's just a flat out lie. Obama does not sanction live abortions.
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yes he does -
he sanctions it and has voted in favor of it .
i will document it on the marrow as it is late

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you want birth control ? drink orange juice !
        ??? what ??? before or after ?
               instead of .
...........................................................

Sarah P. has more on her resume than Obama has on his resume ... and she is the #2 .    nuff said . More corruption. More double standards. More wasteful spending. And more lies. Yes, you're right, Mike! She has more negative experience!!!
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sorry mr or mrs crime
that is not true , you should watch her speech before the GOP convention .

BrattyJenn · Veteran Member

George Bush's speech writer wrote her speech! And it is all fluff! She really didn't SAY anything!

Andrew · Veteran Member

I have another question for mike.

Do you think that Christian's who are against abortion but support war are hypocrites?

I mean alot of "innocents" were killed in Iraq. Aren't those lives as valuable, or is it because they are on the other side of the world and muslim, their lives don't matter.

One day America will have to come to grips with the amount of lives that the war cost, not just in dollars but in lives.

By the way the cost is already over 1/2 a trillion dollars.

And the amount of Iraqi civilians is near 100,000.

What is your take on that Mike?

I really want to know.

What makes your type tick, and do you have a conscience?

mike of the mountain · Veteran Member

Andrew wrote:
murder of American unborn innocent children is a crime and a sin and is not in any way related to a proactive war to defend our country from an enemy whose stated goal is our conversion to islam or if we refuse , our destruction.
do you wish to convert to islam ? do wish that choice to be forced on you and and every one else who lives in America ?
I have another question for mike.

Do you think that Christian's who are against abortion but support war are hypocrites?
no , i dont . freedom is not free . "they" declared "their " intentions to kill Americans and to destroy America and the West , "they" have not retracted that intention / statement . then they killed 3000 Americans in NYC ... just for effect . so instead our military hunts them down and kills them .
                    sux to be them .

I mean alot of "innocents" were killed in Iraq. Aren't those lives as valuable, or is it because they are on the other side of the world and muslim, their lives don't matter.
    would you prefer those deaths to be Americans , in a large city after another 9-11-2001 type attack ?    what makes you think "they" have any intention of not fulfilling "their" promise to destroy us and enslave the American population not killed ?

Scott Leffler · Administrator

Looks like Palin has some racism issues of her own, if this story is to be believed.

by Charley James
So Sambo beat the bitch!
This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obamas win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrats primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.
It was kind of disgusting, Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the lower 48 about life near the North Pole.
Click the link above to read the rest.

Now, Mike, tell me why that's okay ... cause I'm sure you think it is.

Andrew · Veteran Member

Mike

It is well known that Saddam had no connection with Al Qaeda before the war started. And if you can't seperate civilian from combatant then I can't help you with your shortsightedness.

I don't think that the average Iraqi citizen is concearned with converting me or my fellow Americans to Islam. I think you are painting the whole middle east with a very broad stroke by thinking that they all are all extremists in the midst of planning some epic apocalyptic showdown on the American homeland.

Muslim extremists are actually a small percentage of the middle-east. So small that they don't even have their own country.

I am sorry that you are not very smart Mike, I am not sure what your educational background is or where you get all your information, but it is obvious to me that you have a limited IQ and/or education.

I have asked you question in regard to having a conscience and you admit that you don't have one! That makes you a sociopath with an inability to distinquish right from wrong. So my point is: you subconsciensly don't know whether if your view points are right or wrong. You just accept what has been spoonfed to you and you throw it out there and hope that some of it sticks to the wall. So, therefore any and all things that you say are false in reference to the self and lack any true conviction.

I know philosophy or higher understanding is beyond your capability, and I am now completely convinced that you are a victim of brainwashing. I feel sorry for you(and your ilk) and hope that you(and your ilk) can cure yourself of your affliction. You can start by typing "brainwashing" into your search engine.

Your an A-1 wack job and I hope you don't have access to any firearms.

BrattyJenn · Veteran Member

Mike, you are one of the many "folks" out there who, for some unknown reason equates Iraq and Saddam Hussein to 9/11. Why do you believe that? Because this is what "W" spoonfed you?

Every thing that you say sounds like a bumper sticker or a catch phrase for the Far Right lunatic fringe belief system that you subscribe to.

And explain to me again how this war has been "Proactive?" Cause you lost me there. All I know is over the past eight years the only thing George W. Bush has "accomplished" is to get our country insanely in debt, alienate practically every other country on the planet and make them hate us, and create a windfall of trillions of dollars for his Big Oil buddies. I heard a statistic that ExxonMobil made 300 million dollars per MINUTE in 2007. This war isn't a "War on Terrorism" it is a war on the middle class and a extended kickback for Haliburton, Blackwater, ALCOA et al.

Suddenly, under "W" it is okay to insult other people's religious views, culture and ethnicity if it is not exactly the same as thier own. What makes America special? Why do Americans have a sense of entitlement? Why is every evil thing America does okay?

And I am willing to bet that you are Pro Death Penalty, right? All of you Anti-Choice, baby savin' religious zealot loons always are. I really hope that someday something happens to you to make you second guess all of your self-righteous smug views. Because I am beginning to think that you really, really do not have a clue. And that is too bad.

Doc Wu · Member

Until the Palin nomination, I had no idea how far south Alaska was...

BrattyJenn · Veteran Member

Scott! I am not surprised by Palin's racist views. And I totally buy that story.

To everyone else:
My god, I think she may be a sociopath! Her looks are throwing people off. I am listening to NPR right now, and they have an "Oh...my...GAWD! Gag me with a spoon" Valley girl...college paid for by mommy and/or daddy, talking about how "GR-eight" Sarah Palin is, because she is young, and Conservative....and how pretty she is! Because that must count for something, right? Apparently to the young, wealthy affluates, it is a factor. This whole thing makes me realize how shallow and visually oriented to a person's appearence "they" are.

I just think it is really funny...or ironic..or something, that they said Obama is young, and attractive, and has no substance. Well, wow, Sarah Palin has them all beat. She is a hunter, and I still want someone to tell me what "sport" or "challenge" there is to shoot animals aerially. Or why she has put a bounty on wolves in Alaska...

I don't want to sound like a total douche, but I suppose that any man and woman can possess the ability to reproduce. Personally I am sick and tired of hearing about people's babies and how wonderful they are...we all have the ability to procreate, or buy a puppy, or collect Marie Osmond Dolls...and in the long run, it is all the same thing....but I say, if you have medical problems, abort, while you can, don't buy a puppy from a petstore, because they come from puppy mills, and if you want to buy M.O. dolls, hell, knock yerself out...

BUFWINGS · Veteran Member

BrattyJenn wrote:
I don't want to sound like a total douche, but I suppose that any man and woman can possess the ability to reproduce. Personally I am sick and tired of hearing about people's babies and how wonderful they are...we all have the ability to procreate......

*claps* Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! :) Even a gnat can reproduce. I am so sick of hearing about what a "blessed event" and "miracle" it is. You have sex (particurlarly unprotected) and a baby is almost inevitable. Why this should be deemed as a miraculous occasion is beyond me.

Why can't people who don't have kids be congratulated and recognized? In my 33 years, I have yet to get pregnant. I'm proud of this fact. I go to great lengths not to end up with a kid.

And I'm kind of curious.... was Bristol (what the hell kind of name is that anyhow?) and Levi (*giggle* Again with the stupid-ass names) using any protection? Probably not. Isn't protection evil in the eyes of God? It's better to have an unwanted baby.

I have lower opinions of anyone actually thinking Palin for VP is a good choice.

BrattyJenn · Veteran Member

Apparently (ha! No pun intended) they don't have Trojans in that fairytale, homespun land of Wasilla. Because if they did, why the hell would Sarah Palin have a kid at 43? The statistics are incredibly high that a child will have birth defects....

And perhaps Buffy and Waspy--er, no wait--Bristol and Levi had no idea where babies came from, or else, why would "they" be pregnant? But now that they are, isn't it just gr-eight? Jay-sus just loves little babies, after all....

Oh, and you know what really pisses me off? (This should probably go in the pet peeves post) those freakin' "Parking for expectant mothers only" parking spaces....I mean, I guess it's okay in front of Babies R Us, but the other day I went to Barnes and Noble--no "baby" store in sight, and lo and behold, there was one of those spaces....

Give me a break!!! I always park in them anyway. And if there can be "special" parking spots in front of every freaking plaza, and people with the abilty to reproduce get all this special treatment, I think I should be able to bring my dogs into Wal*Mart shopping with me. Because they are better behaved than most kids.

Mindcrime · Senior Member

mike of the mountain wrote:
murder of American unborn innocent children is a crime and a sin and is not in any way related to a proactive war to defend our country from an enemy whose stated goal is our conversion to islam or if we refuse , our destruction.

"American unborn innocent children?" Translation: Children, especially the ones with brown skin, are somehow not innocent and deserve to have high explosives dropped on them.

If abortion was illegal, it would be a crime. It is not.

If killing innocent people were a sin, warmongers like you would not be condoning mass murder in Iraq. Iraq was not a threat to us, hence they were innocent and did not warrant our invasion. Simply wanting to kill us (a desire limited to the extremist minority), is not the same as issuing valid threats.

The real threat did not come from Iraq, but from individuals, specifically from individuals from Saudi Arabia. And our presence in Iraq is not in the interest of defending our country. It's an occupation, in the interest of war profiteers.

BUFWINGS · Veteran Member

BrattyJenn wrote:
Oh, and you know what really pisses me off? (This should probably go in the pet peeves post) those freakin' "Parking for expectant mothers only" parking spaces....I mean, I guess it's okay in front of Babies R Us, but the other day I went to Barnes and Noble--no "baby" store in sight, and lo and behold, there was one of those spaces....

Give me a break!!! I always park in them anyway. And if there can be "special" parking spots in front of every freaking plaza, and people with the abilty to reproduce get all this special treatment, I think I should be able to bring my dogs into Wal*Mart shopping with me. Because they are better behaved than most kids.

No doubt your dogs ARE better behaved. And what is the deal with the expectant mothers only parking spaces? Isn't exercise GOOD for pregnant women? We all have the ability to reproduce, it's just that some of us actually consider the fact that you don't HAVE to have kids. You have a choice.

Add to my pet peeve list... when (particularly Southwest Airlines) lets familes with kids pre-board. The only good thing about this is with Southwest's opening seating policy, by the time you finally board, you can get a seat far, far away from them. I have been on many flights where I wanted to jump out because people couldn't get their kid to SHUT UP. Can I pay extra for a kid-free flight?

I wonder how Bristol and Levi REALLY feel about having this baby... ??? And, is it me, or is this pregnancy helping Palin out in the polls?

Mindcrime · Senior Member

Not that I enjoy beating on this woman politically, I just can't help it.

Sarah Palin charged Alaska residents to stay in her own home.

ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.

Palin, who earns $125,000 a year, claimed and received $16,951 as her allowance, which officials say was permitted because her official "duty station" is Juneau, according to an analysis of her travel documents by The Washington Post.

The governor's daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel, and many of the trips were between their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

Story link

Fiscal conservatism from Republicans. Not.

-- Edited by Mindcrime at 23:45, 2008-09-09